The Swedish journalist who wrote a controversial article claiming Israel Defense Forces soldiers kill Palestinians in order to harvest their organs is reportedly reconsidering his views after a recent visit to Israel, Army Radio reported on Thursday.No, it wasn't the lack of evidence that made him rethink the issue. It wasn't the fact that it echoed anti-semitic accusations from centuries past. It wasn't because even the Palestinian Arabs he quoted said that they didn't believe that Israel killed their son for his organs. No, it was because he found out, gosh darn it, that some Israelis are nice people who might not do such a thing. Sorry, Donald. When you return the $5000 award you got from Algeria because of your lies, then we might think a little more highly of you. When you publicly apologize for your sick article, then maybe you can start on the road back to being a responsible human being. When you loudly tell the Arab world - which wholeheartedly embraced your blood libel - that you and they are completely wrong, then you can stand up with a tiny amount of pride as having tried to rectify your calumny. Privately admitting to some friends that you might have been mistaken? That is a worthless gesture. |
Thursday, November 12, 2009
Swedish blood libeler: "My bad!"
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Daily Goldstone 11/12
Jonathan Dahoah Halevi looks at an episode detailed in Goldstone that I had looked at as well: The Goldstone Report about Operation Cast Lead accuses Israel of an air strike on the mosque on January 3, 2009, which caused the deaths of “at least 15 Palestinians” who were in it at the time. During the confrontation with Dr. Gold, Goldstone claimed that 21 Palestinians had been killed, and he presented the attack as a salient example of Israel’s policy of deliberately targeting innocent civilians. However, Israel issued official documents stating that its Air Force did not attack the mosque and that the dead had been killed in fighting the IDF.Halevi also looks at the many times mosques were used for storing bombs and weapons, for recruiting terrorists, and for breeding suicide bombers. (h/t t34zakat) |
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Israeli Arabs trying to take tabbouleh record from Lebanon
Last month, Lebanon made a big deal over the fact that it had broken the world records for the largest tabbouleh dish and the largest hummus plate. It particularly wanted to break these records because the previous hummus record was done in Israel, and Lebanon considers these to be particularly Lebanese dishes. |
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Hamas cancels Arafat events, shuts down media
From PCHR: At approximately 19:00 on Tuesday, 10 November 2009, members of the [Hamas] police investigation bureau and the Internal Security Service, who were armed and wearing civilian clothes, broke into the offices of Ramattan News Agency in Shawa and Hussari Building in the center of Gaza City. They prevented a press conference organized by the National Action Commission in Gaza City to publicize the Gaza government’s cancellation of a ceremony that was supposed to be held in Rashad al-Shawa Center on Wednesday, 11 November 2009, in commemoration of the death of the late Palestinian President Yasser Arafat. The security officers claimed that the conference was unlicensed. They also confiscated recording tapes belonging to Ramattan News Agency and al-Quds Television and ordered members of the National Action Commission to leave the offices.I'm sure that all those pro-Palestinian Arab European NGOs are working hard to convince Hamas to allow freedom of expression and freedom of the press. The press releases condemning Hamas are coming Real Soon Now. |
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Who are Miles of Smiles?
Today, after a month long delay, Egypt allowed a convoy of medical aid to arrive in Gaza: The European medical aid convoy “Miles of Smiles” arrived in Gaza late night Wednesday night after spending 25 days waiting on the Egyptian side of the crossing.Their visit is not only humanitarian but also political: Both Hamas and Miles of Smiles seem to be on the same page that, like Free Gaza, their goal is not to help Gaza children but to spread Hamas propaganda. Miles of Smiles is run by a group called Partners for Peace and Development for Palestinians (PPDP), and it was created specifically as a political organization: Our mission is to establish a continuously expanding Palestinian network made up of a number of sectors from various professional committees and operating from different international centres. Through strategically managed programmes of co-ordination and co-operation, PPDP will be the umbrella organisation that facilitates exchanges of information and enhances knowledge and expertise between the established committees. The ultimate objective will be to create a situation where PPDP can contribute substantially to peace and development for a free Palestine.It is not an NGO created to deliver aid. It delivers aid to further the political goals of Hamas. They are associated with a Swiss group called "Driot Pour Tous" which says that it has admirable, universal goals: It aims at long term, to address injustice throughout the world and wants to contribute to the application of international law in all parts of the world. It wants to fight against all forms of racism, antisemitism and discrimination. It even states specifically: We wish to establish clearly a difference between [anti-]Zionism and antisemitism and to vehemently condemn those who support the crimes of Hitler and who advocate anti-Jewish doctrines! Yet DPT's activities are all centered on one topic: Palestinian Arabs. While it claims to be against "all forms of terrorism," I could not find a single article on their site that was against Arab terrorism (or against anti-semitism.) To its credit, it does not call for the wholesale destruction of Israel via a "right of return" and does not seem to go beyond UN resolutions. DPT does, however, repeat the Arab trope that there can be no "peace without justice," which is a keyword meaning the expulsion of a half million Jews from their homes and no Jewish sovereignty over any Jewish holy place. It also links to at least one article that compares Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto (article no longer available.) Although these groups do not seem as transparently deceptive as Free Gaza and the ISM, they both make it appear that they have a more universal focus than this one issue. PPDP, in particular, seems to be far more pro-Hamas than pro-PA. |
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Proof of Iranian lies
For some reason, the entire story of the intercepted Iranian arms ship to Hezbollah seems to have disappeared from the radar of the world's leaders. In the meanwhile, Israel has been meticulously documenting the links - and the deception. |
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Wednesday, November 11, 2009
Haniyeh pretends to be peaceful
When the audience is willing to believe what he dishes out, Hamas' Gaza leader is all too happy to serve: De facto Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh told a delegation from the International Committee of the Red Cross that Gaza is "not looking for more violence," but that he was sure Israel has "plans to target the Gaza Strip once again.”Only last month, Haniyeh told his people that the Goldstone report will not affect Hamas' "resistance" plans. |
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Afternoon open thread
Got things to do this afternoon, so comment freely. |
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Daily Goldstone 11/11
Yaacov Lozowick finally puts his thoughts on paper after spending weeks reading Goldstone. His full article is 12 pages long. Here's a small part: These representative examples – they are representative, not cherry-picked – show that the authors approached their investigation with a one-sided and tendentious understanding of the conflict, eager to embrace bogus depictions of facts which could have been easily checked, and with an image of Israeli society unrecognizable to most Israelis. This is crucial, as the single most important finding in the Report is that Israel purposefully targeted the population of Gaza. Even before reading the descriptions of events, it is reasonable to wonder "what Israel" it is the investigators were investigating; it certainly isn't the one its citizens recognize. Even more baffling than the willingness of the investigators to invent Israeli motives, which at least is not denied, is their refusal to seek evidence of the actions and intentions of the defenders. They made a few feeble enquiries of what they call the Gaza Authorities about the fighters, were rebuffed with the odd response that these authorities had no knowledge of what the fighters of their own side might have been doing, and that was all. Yet in dozens of cases described in their report, the question demands to be answered: if the IDF was firing in this direction, what do the Hamas commanders have to tell about their forces? Had they booby trapped the building? Were they firing from here? Had they laid mines in this field? Were they congregating in this mosque, and for what purpose? Was this farm intended as a line of defense, or that zoo as a trap for advancing IDF troops? In many cases the investigators asked local civilians, but they never asked the fighters or their leaders.Read the whole thing. |
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The easy and false analogies of walls
The 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall allows lazy journalists and pundits to weigh in on the evils of that "other" wall that has saved the lives of countless Jews. |
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Today's PalArab news 11/11/09 - Arafalooza!
It's the fifth anniversary of Yasir Arafat's super-timely demise (in the sense that it happened way too late.) PalArab papers are filled with articles about him, and about various events and rallies commemorating his "departure" (or "murder," depending on the paper.) |
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Tuesday, November 10, 2009
State Department funds Palestinian Arab media
I received an email from one of the commenters here that pointed out this article in Ma'an from last week: US Consul General to Jerusalem Daniel Rubinstein made a tour of Bethlehem organizations and institutions on Thursday, visiting Ma'an Network's headquarters and Bethlehem University, among others.Ma'an was somewhat objective before the Hamas coup in Gaza, but it has shown itself to be very afraid to criticize Hamas since Hamas threatened them two years ago. So what is the State Department doing funding slanted Palestinian Arab media? Ma'an still routinely refers to Palestinian Arabs killed as "martyrs" in Arabic. And more importantly, the point of the State Department is to try to influence other countries and people towards opinions that are more pro-American. What good is sending money towards Palestinian Arab media if there is no benefit to the US? I can think of other causes that might need the money a bit more. |
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Abbas "resignation" theatre
The papers are filled with Abbas' threats to resign as president of the Palestinian Authority. (Today he added a threat to withdraw as head of the PLO and Fatah as well.) March 18, 2008The scenario is the same. Abbas feels insecure (as well he should - his leadership abilities are nil) so he regularly stages these threats, and in response he gets lots of adulation from diplomats and "spontaneous" demonstrations from his people. In this case, the idea that he is resigning is equally absurd. John Podhoretz thinks it is a gambit to overshadow Netanyahu's meeting with Obama, but I think it is a bit more that that. Abbas thought he had Obama on his side in his (brand new) demand that all Jewish building to the east of the old Green Line stop completely before negotiations resume. Then, Hillary Clinton told him that they got Israel to curtail settlement building but not stop it completely. From Abbas' perspective, he needs to raise the stakes to get America to adhere to his position and pressure Israel - and, more importantly, take the pressure off himself. His threats to resign means he is saying to play his way or he'll make sure that no one gets to play at all. This is entirely consistent with Abbas' leadership style, or lack of it. He is deathly afraid of making an unpopular decision - yet negotiations require compromise. He simply says "no" to everything and pretends that this is what a strong leader does. The threat to resign is just a gambit that he has used in the past to shore up support. And boy has he been getting that support! Hillary said she loves working with him, and his own Fatah organized rallies to support him. Meanwhile, he continues to press the US on the settlements, which is not something you would expect from someone who is a lame duck. The idea that he would give up leadership of Fatah is even more absurd. Abbas managed to successfully cement his leadership of that organization in August at the Fatah conference, and he is not going to throw all that away in a fit of pique. It is theatre. |
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Monday, November 09, 2009
Today's blackmail threat by the PA
The passive voice is wonderful for making threats: The Palestinian Authority on Monday warned that violence could once again convulse the region if the United States fails to get Israel to halt settlements as part of a resumed peace process.Violence will erupt! Just like a volcano, it will be a natural phenomenon, one that mere people are powerless to stop - unless you do what they demand. No, Rudeina cannot say that Palestinian Arabs will accelerate terror attacks against Jewish civilians because of incitement - like he just demonstrated. If he would use the T word that may make Westerners think that perhaps human beings are responsible for their own actions. That cannot be. PalArabs have no responsibility for their actions. Their rage is normal and accepted, and must be managed by the frightened West doing their bidding before they turn into an army of mini-Incredible Hulks. You can't blame them if they decide to put on a bomb belt and blow up an ice cream shop or a cafe. They have no control over their emotions, no free will to stop terror, no ability to think and reason like normal human beings. The only people who can act rationally are Westerners - Arabs will just rush to fill the void with violence. If you accept the words of the PA presidential spokesman. In fact, if you try to treat them like normal people - if you ask them to compromise, to work towards a win-win scenario, to come up with reasonable proposals that wouldn't place certain other parties in mortal danger - that might just be enough to set them off. So don't ask them to take responsibility or act like sane adults, because that just ticks them off. Just do what they say, and everything will be OK. Until their next list of demands. |
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Saudi Vice, episode 30: That old black magic
![]() After a two-year trial, a Madina court sentenced a Lebanese man, 47, to death Monday for practicing black magic.I couldn't find anything in amnesty International about this specific type of sentence in Saudi Arabia, although it does mention Saudi Arabian judges have wide discretion and can hand down death sentences for vaguely-worded and non-violent offences. Some migrant workers are reported to have even been unaware that they had been sentenced to death until the very morning of their execution.See how efficient the Muttawa is? Too bad their Facebook page isn't more popular. Could be because they censor anyone who insults them (the heckler I mentioned this morning has disappeared from their Facebook wall.) Lance Burton, stay out of the Middle East! |
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A bizarre Photoshop of Arafat
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I guess I'm wrong then
Just saw this in The Dissident Voice: In the extended interview (not broadcast on Comedy Central but available on The Daily Show website) with Dr. Mustafa Barghouti and Anna Baltzer, [Jon] Stewart made up to twenty factual errors. These can be broadly grouped into about half a dozen myths: Jews “returned” to Palestine after 2,000 years in exile; Israel provided a haven for Jews suffering persecution in Muslim countries; Iran is developing nuclear weapons, with which it wants to “wipe Israel off the map”; Israel is unfairly singled out for criticism, mainly due to Arab anti-Semitism; both sides are equally to blame for the conflict; and Palestinians can’t agree among themselves, so you can hardly blame Israel for not making peace with them. Many of these myths – all of which serve Zionist interests well – are so transparently false that it is hardly necessary to debunk them all here.Well, you can't argue with that sterling logic! |
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Arafat poison probe oh-so-close
Nasser al-Kidwa, Yasir Arafat's nephew who has been trying mightily since April to prove that Arafat was poisoned by evil Zionists, took the opportunity of the fifth anniversary of the old fart's death to announce...that he doesn't quite have the evidence yet. He expects to obtain evidence soon to confirm that the Palestinian leader was poisoned.Sounds like Richard Goldstone took some lessons of objective fact-finding from Nasser al-Kidwa. |
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Saudi Vice Squad on Facebook!
From al-Arabiya: A group of Saudi's launched a group on a popular social networking website called The Facebook Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice and have so far to attracted more than 500 members.The group has only 12 members at the moment, not 500, and at least one person (Betty Boopah) is mercilessly heckling them, all in Arabic. |
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Hamas blocks IFJ meeting on Ethical Journalism
Palestine Press Agency reports that the International Federation of Journalists scheduled a videoconference meeting on the topic of Ethical Journalism, a worldwide initiative that the IFJ has been pushing. |
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October rocket calendar
Q=Qassam (may include Katyusha-style rockets) MS=Mortar landing short October 2009
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Sunday, November 08, 2009
Where did the day go? open thread
Don't you just hate it when real life intrudes on blogging time? |
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Illegal Palestinian Arab immigration to Europe
Last week, a boat carrying illegal immigrants bound for Europe sank off the coast of Turkey - and at least four of the dead were Palestinian Arabs. From Haber: BODRUM (A.A) - 06.11.2009 - Death toll reached six, including a Turkish citizen and three children, after a boat carrying illegal immigrants capsized off the Aegean coast of Turkey late Thursday, Turkish authorities said.The story of Palestinian Arabs risking their lives to illegally immigrate to Europe is one that gets swept under the rug. If it is mentioned at all it is assumed that Israeli policies are forcing this to happen, as this sickening Independent report said in 2007: Sixty-five years ago, the rickety boats fighting through the towering waves of the Mediterranean towards a new home were crammed with Jews escaping Nazi persecution. Today the boats are plying in the opposite direction, towards Europe, and increasingly their cargo is Palestinians - fleeing the living hell of Palestine.Go down a few paragraphs and you will see the "hell" that the Palestinian Arabs were escaping was not Israeli "occupation" but rather daily life under the PA: Later Abdelsiih Mohammed Ecsim (as the authorities recorded his name), a boy who marked his 14th birthday during the crossing, said through a Palestinian interpreter, "It was dark, I was shaking with fear - but only at the end, before that I was shaking with cold."So while the Independent is comparing life in Ramallah with European death camps, it is clear that a lot of Palestinian Arabs really don't want to live in Palestine to begin with. These are not isolated cases. According to Frontex, an organization that monitors Europe's borders, The 1st phase of operation Poseidon 2007 took place on 15 May – 3 June 2007. During the sea part of the operation 910 illegal immigrants were intercepted, 194 forged or falsified travel documents were detected, 88 illegal immigrants were diverted to the country of departure and 13 facilitators were arrested. Main nationalities of illegal migrants identified during the operation were: Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq and Albania.Europol describes the phenomenon of illegal immigration into Europe and accurately describes the fact that people choose to make such a move more because off the "pull" of a better life rather than the "push" of how bad their lives are now: The reasons why migrants leave their home countries are commonly referred to as ‘push factors’ and can include conflicts, dissolution and/or disintegration of multicultural states, natural disasters or other environmental problems, discrimination, political instability or poor economic situations. Although poverty, conflict and disasters are all powerful push factors, they tend to cause local or regional migration, not international facilitated illegal immigration. Poor and war-torn states are less interesting for the facilitators of illegal immigration since people in these states usually cannot pay the huge fees these facilitators demand.The economy in the West Bank is as attractive as the economy in most Arab countries. They aren't being "pushed" out by horrendous living conditions - if they were, they would tend to want to move to neighboring states. The answer can be seen in an Arabic Palestine Press Agency article about this tragedy: Turkey is an important route of illegal migration from Asia to Europe because of the refusal of Arab states to absorb them. The illegal immigrants come from Africa and the Middle East, especially Palestinians. A combination of their statuses of perpetual statelessness, forced on them by their Arab brethren (which makes living in other Arab countries no more attractive than staying put,) and the possibility of financial success in Europe, cause them to want to leave. This is enormously embarrassing to Palestinian Arab leaders. They want to push the myth of a deep, historic connection between their people and Palestine, when in fact historically Arabs moved freely between all lands in the Middle East in response to economic and social conditions. The small but significant number who risk it all to leave their supposed homeland is not proof of how bad their lives are. By any reasonable standard, West Bank Arabs have better living conditions than the majority of the Arab world and the world at large. Rather, this is proof that even after years of indoctrination with a made-up history of specifically "Palestinian" culture and yearning, many just don't feel any emotional ties with the land. It also shows that if Arab countries would stop their discriminatory policies against Palestinian Arabs - the only group of Arabs that cannot become naturalized citizens in Arab countries - that a flood of Palestinian Arabs would happily trade their mythical dreams of "Palestine" for the opportunity to resettle and start their lives anew among their own people. As a result, tragic stories like this one tend to be minimized and ignored by Palestinian Arab leaders themselves. If the world sees how much Palestinian Arabs want to leave their beloved homeland, it will start to question why a state will solve anything. The question might also arise of why no "diaspora" Palestinian Arabs are risking their lives to move to Palestine. |
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Saturday, November 07, 2009
A small terrorist get-together
This picture was taken at an Islamic Jihad festival that took place in Damascus over the weekend. It was yet another gathering to honor the anniversary of the death of its founder, Fathi Shakaki. |
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Obama's Rabin speech justifies terror
Am I the only person who finds this sentence outrageous? |
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Friday, November 06, 2009
Arab report: Extremists use sex to recruit suicide bombers
Al Arabiya is presenting an Arabic language TV show about suicide bombers tonight. In the show, they reveal that terrorist leaders explicitly use the lure of sex in Paradise as a means to recruit young men: An analysis of the content of SMS messages sent by the bombers before they blew themselves up showed that more than 80% of the suicide bombers mention a wish to meet virgins as one of the reasons that compel them to carry out these operations. |
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Lebanese school bans Anne Frank
From AFP: Anne Frank's diary has been censored out of a school textbook in Lebanon following a campaign by the militant group Hezbollah claiming the classic work promotes Zionism.But Allah forbid you should call them anti-semitic. They love Jews! Just as long as the Jews are dead or subjugated into silence. Notice also how a private school in Lebanon must do what Hezbollah says, giving Islamic fundamentalists effective absolute power over the entire country just by using threats. |
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Erekat: Compromise is not "realistic"
From Palestine Press Agency: Dr. Saeb Erekat, chief negotiator of the Palestine Liberation Organization, said that the option of two countries on the borders of June 1967 is the only realistic option of making peace in the Middle East.In other words, the idea of compromise is anathema. The idea of any Jews living in the West Bank is unrealistic. The idea that a single Jew should remain in the Old City is horrendous and an obstacle to "peace." The very thought that Jews should have free access to their holy places or be able to live in towns on the east side of a border that Arabs rejected before 1967 is simply not "realistic" and therefore must be shot down. Thus spoke the "moderate." Because we all remember how peaceful things were between Arabs and Jews before 1967! |
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Palestinian Arabs are unique in international law
The Guardian says that accused Fort Hood murderer Nidal Hassan was "the son of Palestinians from a village near Jerusalem." Military authority over the territory of the hostile state The question that remains murky is, what is the state that Israel is occupying? It cannot be Jordan, because Jordan relinquished control in 1988, and the international community never recognized Jordan's annexation of the West Bank. It seems clear, from the aforementioned sources, that this "state" is "Palestine." In other words, according to the UN and the ICJ, there is a legal entity called "Palestine" and it has existed since at least 1967, probably since 1948. This is remarkable in itself that international law is implicitly recognizing a state that was never declared or recognized. As a matter of fact, it may be against international law to prematurely recognize a state (note 26.) (The ICJ takes the position that the intent of the Fourth Geneva Convention is not only between High Contracting Parties and that the intent of the drafters was to protect civilians even if they were not in a state beforehand. This is probably true: the Fourth Geneva Convention is specifically concerned with civilians. The advisory opinion is being extended way beyond treatment of civilians - the responsibility of which Israel voluntarily accepted in 1967 - and into the legal status of the territories themselves. That isn't defined by Geneva, but by the Hague. This brings up an entire other set of anomalies as Israel ceded day to day control of large parts of the territories to the PA, as a strict reading of "occupation" would imply that Israel has a much greater responsibility over West Bank Palestinian affairs than it exercises now, a position that would horrify the UN and ICJ.) If we ignore these anomalies and assume that there is a legal entity called Palestine that is under occupation, then we come up to another problem: the definition of "refugees." We have discussed a number of times in the past how Palestinian Arab "refugees" are the only ones in the world whose definition includes the descendants of the original people who fled a war. The UNRWA's operational definition has somehow become the legal definition. But this definition has another dimension of exceptionalism: if one considers the West Bank to be legally "Palestine," then the original "refugees" who are there would normally be considered "internally displaced persons." After all, they just moved from one part of "Palestine" to another - if one accepts that "Palestine" is "occupied." This analysis shows that the only way for the worldview of "occupation" and "refugees" to both be accurate and not contradictory is to redefine both words to accommodate a specific circumstance. To say that normal legal terms must be redefined for Palestinian Arabs - and only Palestinian Arabs - is to make a mockery of the idea of law itself. |
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Marriage in Somalia
An interesting article in Al Arabiya discusses how marriage has turned into a legal way of sleeping around for young Somalians, helped by random calls on inexpensive cell phones: Bile Farah, 25, said marriages nowadays have become more of an "entertainment."The article started off with that same shop owner describing how things were in the good old days: Somali courtship was different in Hassan Aden's day. When he was a teenager, you gave the girl's parents 11 camels and an AK-47 assault rifle as bride price and then waited respectfully. |
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